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O.G. Rose's avatar

Excellent work, Seth, and I really enjoyed this conversation and everything we explored together. Thank you for making possible the space.

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Seth Dellinger's avatar

This conversation felt "messier" than part one - and I think that's a good thing!

Looking forward to the next one...

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Word salad (digest, poeisis)'s avatar

Maybe circling is a natural need, instinct like, “how will we rescue those people in trouble on the mountain….?”

Propositional circling is, Hi mom, I have my podcast live, we are having a good time, people seem to like us.

Who around here knows about emerging?

Is it the same feeling of the emergency and *they seem to know what they are doing* I don’t have time, I must hurry away.

Or is it more like a Tsunami that lost the couch and tv, yet still waits and waits for the screen to come back to life, with God like instructions or the teleprompter?

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Seth Dellinger's avatar

Pretty cryptic for me. Care to translate a bit?

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Word salad (digest, poeisis)'s avatar

Oh, sure.

Indigenous wisdom has circled since time immemorial.

People have circled outside the square for time immemorial.

The square has corners, both to hide or to punish by cornering, standing in the corner etc.

The need to circle that I have witnessed, stops traffic in the street, has no interest of our ways, and has no interest of spectacle, only that our roads and rules are imaginary to the indigenous strength, also there is no specific leader or order to speak, only that the speaker is not interrupted of the ceremony at hand.

It gets more difficult because we stole the word ceremony, and stole the word circle to collaborate with corporate ideals and individualism.

Truly all that has happened is that we sacrificed childhood for the dream, and did not listen to the child’s needs.

In many indigenous circles, the child is in the middle, maybe it can be noticed why such effort is so important?

Around a campfire, silence isn’t awkward.

Walking and talking is also more fluid but John Vervaeke chose a Silk Road of imaginary walking.

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